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Good morning and welcome to the bull work podcast

I'm Charlie Sykes Susan Glasser and Peter Baker's new book The Divider is an extraordinary

650 plus page look at the front presidency and includes

300 original interviews and it's just loaded with dazzling details and anecdotes

But it's not just a history. It's a pretty dire warning about what could lie ahead

Susan Glasser is a staff writer at the New Yorker Peter Baker is chief White House chorus bond for the New York Times

And they join me today on the podcast good morning to both of you. Hey, thanks for having us. Appreciate it

Oh, I'm so glad to be back with you. Thank you. Well, I appreciate it

I so I have to ask you I have to ask you both now. I have an answer

But there's so much in this book. What's your favorite story? What's your favorite anecdote?

What's the one that you think man that was when when you wrote it? You thought this is just this is cold

Oh, man, you know you starting out with the tough questions here

There there are a lot of classic Trump moments here, but for me I have to say when we when we first heard the real story of how

Donald Trump got Shinto Abe to nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize for me that really hit home because it's just it's got every

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