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The Bulwark Podcast

Susan Glasser: An Exercise in National Humiliation

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Some rando far-right social media suck-up, who Trump rewarded with an appointment to his administration, is pushing mortgage fraud investigations of Adam Schiff, Tish James, and now Fed governor Lisa Cook. Trump claims he's fired Cook based on a tweet—but will any institution stand up to these McCarthy-like campaigns against his political foes? Meanwhile, Bolton is being investigated because he went on TV and called out Trump's lies about his embarrassing Alaska summit. Plus, the administration is abusing official resources by having Guard troops just stand around in D.C., Putin wants to devour Ukraine by any means necessary, and we are finding out what it's like to have a live-streaming presidency. Susan Glasser joins Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back. Staff writer at The New Yorker, which is a weekly column on life in Washington. She's also a host of the magazine's Political Scene podcast, co-author most recently of

0:25.3

the divider, Trump in the White House, with her husband Peter Baker.

0:30.1

She was also Moscow bureau chief of the Washington Post.

0:32.1

It's Susan Glasser.

0:33.0

How you doing, Susan?

0:34.1

Hey, Tim.

0:34.9

Great to be with you.

0:35.7

Too much to talk about, I'm afraid.

0:39.3

Much to discuss. Where are you coming at us from? You in D.C. right now? No, I'm with my mom up in Massachusetts, so escaping the

0:45.8

occupied city for a few days. All right. Well, we'll have something to discuss about the occupied

0:49.9

city and, you know, the troops hanging out outside Krispy Kreme and Georgetown Cupcake, keeping the

0:55.8

people safe. But first, we're going to discuss Lisa Cook, which is the big news of last night.

1:00.9

Trump has posted a bleat, I guess, that he's going to remove the Federal Reserve Governor

1:06.2

Lisa Cook, effective immediately. By law, he can only fire her for cause. He is citing accusations

1:13.9

that she has two primary mortgages, I guess, though she's not been charged with any crime.

1:19.7

Cook has a statement out this morning saying that she is refusing to resign, just going to take

1:23.8

him to court. She's the first black woman to be a Fed governor, I think,

1:27.9

is worth noting. I think this is of a pace with, you know, your last article about Trump's

1:33.1

retribution and the, you know, creeping authoritarian aspirations that he has. But I was wondering

1:41.0

your reaction. Yeah, I mean, there's so much to unpacked there.

1:44.7

I mean, first of all, let's just say that Donald Trump, the first convicted felon to serve as

1:50.1

president. His conviction was recently upheld, although the enormous civil fine in a court was

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