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podcasts. All right, everybody, welcome back to another special edition of The Pod has spoken our Micronesia Rewatch

coverage and we are here with none other than four-time Survivor legend, Ozzy.

Ozzy, what's up dude, how you doing?

I'm doing great.

How you doing?

I'm great, your hair looks amazing by the way.

I'm trying, trying, you got to, yeah. It's a lot of people always are like how can you keep it so long and stuff? I'm like it's actually

easier because you don't have to go get haircuts and stuff. Yeah yeah I agree well there's that there's also that point where, you know, my

hair gets so tangly. I got to be like constantly trying to get the dreads out.

And then, you know, sleeping can be a pain in the ass but I feel you too

all or nothing yeah that is true sleeping yeah it is all or nothing sleeping does become a bit of a problem sometimes if your neck

for one evening is like sensitive for some reason you're like get it off of me.

Ozzy we got a big surprise for you today I know you're a huge fan of Riley Mcatie at the

Ringer here. He's my co-host and usually covers the NFL but has also been my

side kick. He's a survivor super fan.

Riley, do you want to say hi to one of your lifelong heroes,

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