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The Man Enough Podcast

Surviving War: Friendship, Manhood and Vulnerability with Major Tom Schueman

The Man Enough Podcast

Wayfarer Studios LLC

Education, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Major Tom Schueman, The Man Enough Podcast’s first war veteran and active duty military guest, discusses male friendship, positive masculine characteristics that are not binary or the property of men alone, how being trained to be alert all the time on the battlefield can make it hard to be vulnerable and present in the rest of life, how knowing how to handle any kind of physical wound does not prepare you to address emotional or psychological wounds, and his belief that we need to learn how to reintegrate warriors back into society after combat like Native Americans and the Spartans used to do. Ultimately, he believes that healthy manhood is rooted in finding purpose and serving something greater than yourself. New episodes every Monday 🎙️ Special video clips each week on https://youtube.com/WeAreManEnough Sign up for the Man Enough newsletter to get full video episodes and positive masculinity news every Monday: http://manenough.com/newsletter The Man Enough Podcast is produced by Wayfarer Studios and presented by Procter and Gamble, in partnership with Cadence13, an Audacy company. Timecodes: 00:00 Episode Tease: how learning to be alert all the time can prevent you from missing out on the fullness of life 01:39 Jamey and Liz talk about the mission of positive masculinity and their own journeys 02:58 Introducing Major Tom Schueman 06:38 Major Tom and Zak’s (Afghan translator) Friendship 10:43: Being Deliberate with Friendships 13:05 Positive Masculinity - Attributes are not binary/exclusive to men 16:39 The Mental Tax Of Violent Work 27:51 Post War Stress and Reintegration 32:14 Embracing Vulnerability 45:11 Breaking The “Dumb Dad” Stereotype 53:05 What Does It Mean To Be Man Enough? About Major Tom Schueman: During his 15 years in military service so far, Major Tom Schueman served as a platoon commander in Afghanistan for 16 months. Tom was awarded a Purple Heart after he and others were ambushed in a field on Nov. 9, 2010. He then went on to get his masters in English Literature at Georgetown University, and currently teaches English literature at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, where he remains on active duty. Tom met Zainullah "Zak" Zaki, an Afghan translator who was embedded with the platoon he commanded in Afghanistan. Schueman and Zak quickly became “family.” Read _Always Faithful_ Major Tom and Zak co-wrote a book titled _Always Faithful_, telling the full story of the divergent paths that led them to work together in Afghanistan, the dangerous road they walked together in service to America, and how their commitment to each other ended up saving both their lives, literally. Major Tom Quotes: “Male friendships…take commitment and consistency. We often think we’re too busy. No relationship will flourish unless it’s watered and fed.” “What I view as some of the positive masculine traits are self-composure, equanimity...I think one of the most desirable traits of a man is someone who is self-composed.” “I don’t view [traits] as binary or mutually exclusive…I’m not saying that it’s not feminine or women can’t do those things...When I talk about my hero, my mother, she exhibited many of these - what we would characterize as masculine traits - and did it exceedingly well.” Guest Social Links: IG: @kill.z0n3 Man Enough book: https://manenough.com/books Boys Will Be Human book: https://boyswillbehuman.com FOLLOW THE HOSTS: Liz Plank https://instagram.com/feministabulous https://tiktok.com/@lizplank https://facebook.com/feministabulous https://twitter.com/feministabulous http://www.elizabethplank.com/ Jamey Heath https://instagram.com/jamey_heath_ https://tiktok.com/@jameyheath https://twitter.com/jamey_heath_ https://facebook.com/jameyjaz http://www.jameyheath.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Coming up on man enough.

0:02.0

You are indoctrinated or inculcated into these cultures,

0:05.0

whether it's the football team or the military

0:08.0

where it is violent, it is aggressive,

0:10.0

by keeping things compartmentalized

0:12.0

ideal very well with stress, but you become emotionally

0:16.8

detached, you might be called cold or distant, you need to be situationally alert.

0:24.4

A lot of these professions put you on alert for that it becomes a lifestyle.

0:29.7

And when that becomes the way that you live, you've really missed out on the fullness and richness of life.

0:38.0

Being man enough, what does that mean?

0:43.6

It's really manly to mess up, admit you're wrong, and then grow.

0:47.5

I couldn't accept that I was evil, so maybe I'm broken.

0:50.7

But those broken things could be corrected.

0:52.7

Intimacy between a father and a son

0:54.5

is me just wanting to like put my head in your lap.

0:57.8

I love you son.

0:59.4

You haven't called me a benevolent sexist,

1:01.0

but my experience is women are better. even if it's a positive it's

1:04.6

still not equality I don't blame men for that I just blame the system this

1:10.1

this is man enough This is not Maninoff.

1:14.0

Hello and welcome back to Maninoff.

1:17.0

My name is Liz Plank.

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