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The Dispatch Podcast

Surviving Trump’s Tariffs | Interview: Josh Barro

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jamie Weinstein is joined by Josh Barro, author of the Very Serious newsletter and co-host of Serious Trouble, to explain everything wrong with Donald Trump’s tariff regime. The Agenda:—You can’t undo uncertainty—What does Trump really believe about tariffs?—Reinventing trade alliances—Political consequences for a recession—Will America rebound?—America’s debt crisis Show Notes:—Flexport CEO Ryan Peterson on The Dispatch Podcast The Dispatch Podcast is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and regular livestreams—⁠click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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1:03.6

My guest today is Josh Barrow. He writes a newsletter called Very Serious with Josh Barrow on Substack.

1:12.1

He also co-hosts a law podcast called Serious Trouble with Ken White, also known as POPAT,

1:20.6

as he used to be on Twitter.

1:23.1

He is a very knowledgeable figure on the economy, which is what we talk about in this episode,

1:30.1

what he thinks of Donald Trump's tariff policy.

1:33.6

And ultimately, if Donald Trump were listening to this podcast and called him, what three

1:38.1

things would he recommend to help make sure America once again leads the 21st century

1:43.3

economically? Without further ado, I think

1:45.8

you'll find this interesting. I give you Mr. Josh Barrow.

2:05.6

Josh Barrow, welcome to the Dispatch podcast.

2:06.8

Hi, Jamie. Thanks for having it.

2:12.5

Well, I'm excited to have you on, Josh, because of all the commentators and out there,

2:16.8

I think you're probably among the most economically literate of the punditocracy.

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