Surviving the Unsurvivable and Finding God in the Rubble featuring Pierre Mousseau
The Dad Edge Podcast
Larry Hagner
4.8 β’ 1.6K Ratings
ποΈ 11 May 2026
β±οΈ 63 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with Pierre Mousseau β entrepreneur, keynote speaker, and author of From the Ashes: A Father's Journey Through Grief, Grace, and Faith. This is one of the most extraordinary, raw, and spiritually powerful conversations this show has ever had.
Pierre grew up with a severely alcoholic and mentally abusive father, was molested at 11, slept on the streets at 17, and was kicked out of his home at 19. He built himself into an entrepreneur, a husband, and a father. And then his son Parker β sweet, joyful, endlessly loving Parker β was taken from him at 21 years old after a catastrophic bowel emergency, five surgeries, and seven weeks in the ICU. Pierre made the decision to remove him from life support.
Five months later, with his company collapsing and the grief unbearable, Pierre got into his car at full speed aimed at a maple tree. He should have died that day. He didn't.
What follows is one of the most extraordinary stories of faith, forgiveness, and divine intervention you will ever hear β from the church he walked into while still hating God, to the deacon whose homily that Sunday was about losing a child, to the moment in the shower when something held him and everything changed.
This episode will stop you in your tracks. And it will remind you to hug your kids today.
Timeline Summary
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
[1:02] Pierre's childhood β alcoholic and abusive father, bullied at school, Spider-Man comics as his only escape
[5:33] Moving in with a drug-addicted uncle at 17, sleeping on the streets, and nobody noticing he was gone
[7:44] Being molested at 11 β and the family that never did anything about it
[8:31] Driving four hours to see his dying father determined to tell him everything β and what actually happened instead
[10:41] Saying "I forgive you" at his father's bedside β and still carrying the hatred for years after
[15:51] Introducing Pierre β entrepreneur, speaker, and author of From the Ashes
[17:30] Who Parker was β how he loved, what made him extraordinary, and the boy who still believed in Santa Claus at 14
[21:30] The phone call from the hospital β and the doctor who said "I don't know what happened but his bowel is pink"
[23:33] Seven weeks in the ICU, ICU delirium, and the decision Pierre had to make
[25:39] "I felt like I murdered my child" β the guilt that followed Pierre for years
[32:18] The hardest decision he has ever made β and why he couldn't keep Parker alive for himself
[38:02] Five months after Parker's death, the company collapsed β and on a Saturday morning Pierre got in his car to end his life
[39:09] Heading for a maple tree at full speed β and what stopped him
[40:44] Eleven months of hating God β and the Sunday morning he suddenly drove to church
[41:21] Walking into mass on the homily about losing a child β and sobbing until the woman beside him put her hand on his shoulder
[43:52] Meeting Deacon Curtis, the grief retreat, Parker's orange tag, and the text that said "I think Parker is trying to tell you something"
[47:30] In the shower in March 2025 β the purple light, the arms that held him, and the love that changed everything
[51:14] Strength is not pushing through β strength is vulnerability, asking for help, and being willing to say "this sucks"
[52:38] The keynote at the convent and the woman with a cane who walked up at the end without one
[56:47] The man in the steam room bashing his kids β and what Pierre said that silenced the room
Five Key Takeaways
- Forgiveness is not a feeling β it's a decision you make before the feeling follows. Pierre said the words at his father's bedside before he was ready. The release came years later.
- Grief and guilt will destroy you if you carry them alone. The bravest thing Pierre did wasn't surviving the worst moments β it was finally saying "I need help" and meaning it.
- Strength is not pushing through. Strength is vulnerability. Strength is allowing yourself to cry, to feel, to say this is hard, and to ask for another man to come alongside you.
- You never know when the moments will be gone. Cherish the ordinary ones β the arcade nights, the couch cuddles, the conversations that start after midnight. Parker would tell you that.
- God meets you in your most broken moment β not when you've cleaned yourself up. Pierre was still hating God when he walked through that church door. It didn't matter.
Links & Resources
- Dad Edge Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/boardroom
- From the Ashes by Pierre Mousseau: Available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Christian Books, and Walmart
- Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1476): https://thedadedge.com/1476
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Closing
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: hug your kids today. Not tomorrow. Today.
Pierre Mousseau lost the most loving person he had ever known. And what he has done with that loss β the book, the keynotes, the moment in the steam room, the woman who walked without her cane β is one of the most beautiful things we have ever witnessed on this show.
Don't let another day go by without telling the people who matter most that you love them.
Go out and live legendary.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. The Dad Edge movement creates leaders of men, leaders of families, and leaders of communities. We will not only impact this generation of fathers, but the next generation as well. The kids we are raising will have better chances and odds stacked in their favor because of the amazing example |
| 0:21.2 | that their fathers emulated for them. We are here to change the world. We are here to change |
| 0:27.6 | relationships. We are here to positively disrupt this generation of fathers so no man goes to their |
| 0:33.6 | grave with regret. We disrupt the drift of busyness and replace it with razor-focused intention, |
| 0:40.3 | passion, purpose, and direction. |
| 0:43.7 | We are the Dad Edge, |
| 0:45.7 | and we're here to change the game. |
| 0:47.8 | We're here to change the game. |
| 1:06.2 | I don't know. Pierre Mousseau, welcome to the podcast, my friend. |
| 1:07.3 | Thank you. |
| 1:08.1 | Thanks for having me. It's an honor. |
| 1:09.3 | Man, I got to tell you, your name. |
| 1:11.7 | Your name. Like, I mean, so like, let's go back to like younger years. |
| 1:16.4 | Like when you're a teenager, like, you're talking to a guy named Larry. |
| 1:23.4 | I used to joke, man, and say, I think my name is Greek for fat kid with glasses who eats paste or something like that. |
| 1:29.3 | Like, it's like, it's like, but maybe if I would have had a name like Pierre Musul, like, I don't know. |
| 1:34.9 | Maybe, maybe I'll have luck with the lady. |
| 1:36.7 | I don't think so because I was a short fat kid with French names. |
| 1:43.5 | Oh my gosh. |
| 1:44.6 | I think we would have been tag teaming on who gets beat up first. |
| 1:48.2 | Oh my gosh, right? |
| 1:49.3 | Yeah, dude, we're in lockstep. |
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