This is Monica Perez. I am here with Grant, the survivalist listener fan friend and he has got the skinny on everything from

bugging in to bugging out and everything in between so welcome Grant thank you so much for spending this time with us.

Absolutely, thanks for having me. So what, some of the things that you turn me on to, like I hadn't really even thought about.

I had this even this idea of bugging in as being superior to bugging out.

So I really want to get into the nitty gritty.

I want to get into your big picture

recommendations and then some details about how to actually prepare,

depending on what level of, you know, how imminent you think things are before they hit the fan.

But before that, I wanted to just know a little bit

about your background and maybe your worldview.

So what do you think is really going on in the world?

And how did you kind of inform your opinions just

big picture stuff if you wouldn't mind.

Sure so we want to go way back I was born in Van Nuys, California, and grew up there mostly, well mostly down Long Beach area, rather than the valley.

I've lived all over Utah, Arizona, mostly California.

That was my stomping grounds.

So I was quite literally born into prepping.

My parents were preppers.

They made sure that I went through Boy Scouts and they made

sure that everything was everything and then the Rodney King riots hit and that was a pretty

interesting time to say the least and so luckily we had a lot of

ammunition we had a lot of guns we had food so our personal security was right there and I grew an appreciation for defending your home, defending

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