Can you imagine finding yourself in front of a serial killer and not understanding how much danger

you're in until it's too late? And yet somehow, somehow walking away and living to tell the tale.

We always have an odd one in the crowd. So it's kind of odd.

I'm excitedly odd. Isn't that strike you as a little bit odd? No, it doesn't strike me as a little bit odd it's the bob and sherry odd cast

with stuff we wouldn't couldn't or shouldn't do on the regular show now here's the odd cast once again we are joined by people magazine investigates alicia dennis to take a deep dive into some of these

stories on the series surviving a serial killer, which is running new episodes on

investigation discovery and streaming on Max. Let's talk about the Casanova killer. It's kind of

gross how in our society we give murder,ers snappy nicknames and turn brutal,

inhumane crimes into entertainment. But the Casanova killer, whose real name is Paul Knowles.

Now, he is believed to have killed. I think it's 18 people, but he claims to have killed. He brags

that he killed more than twice that many.

And the woman who survived that is a single mom named Barbara Abel. Let's talk about Barbara.

Barbara's case is just shocking on so many levels. This, she comes home and finds a stranger inside her house.

This guy is holding her sister hostage and her sister has a disability.

It's part of Barbara's life to take care of her sister.

And so she immediately starts trying to bargain with this stranger.

You know, leave my sister.

Take me.

If you need to have to kidnap someone, let it be me.

She's trying to have that happen incredibly quickly because she knows that at any

moment her young son is going to be coming through the door home from school. And she doesn't

manage to convince the stranger to take her fast enough and her son does come home. And Paul

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