This is the Kander Daily Podcast for Wednesday, April 15th, 2020.

I'm Caleb Brown.

For several countries, the COVID-19 outbreak has put the government surveillance in the

mix as a potential solution to address the contacts that spread the virus.

But we know from experience government powers granted in one context often find their way

to broader use in ways that more directly threaten liberty and privacy

on an ongoing basis.

Cato's Matthew Feeney discusses the tools of surveillance during a pandemic.

Countries like Israel, like South Korea, and Apple and Google and some

other tech companies have sort of hit upon surveillance as a key to dealing with this

pandemic. Some of those policies are a little more invasive than others.

The private ones, for example, are opt-in.

So what do you make of using surveillance as a tool during this very sort of strange and difficult time.

At first glance, I think it's clear to most people why surveillance would be an interesting or useful strategy at a time like this.

We are in the midst of a pandemic and the way that it spreads is person to person.

And if you are in contact with someone who is COVID-19 positive,

there's a chance that you'll get it.

So it makes sense that if you're trying to tackle this problem,

that the more information you have about who has the disease and who they've been in contact with,

the more easy it will be to tackle this virus.

And that I think makes sense and I don't think I'm I don't have many

disagreements on that assessment what you've seen around the world though is a

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