Surveillance after Carpenter
Cato Podcast
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🗓️ 2 July 2018
⏱️ 18 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Kator Daily Podcast for Monday, July 2nd, 2018. |
| 0:07.0 | I'm Caleb Brown. |
| 0:08.0 | The Supreme Court's decision in Carpenter was meant to be narrow, but it has implications for how courts might think about |
| 0:14.0 | government use of your cell data in the future and how we think about who owns that |
| 0:19.0 | data to begin with. Cato's Patrick Eddington and Matthew Feeney lay out what we might expect following the Carpenter |
| 0:25.5 | decision. |
| 0:26.5 | In the Supreme Court's recent Carpenter decision, the court found, yeah, in most instances, asterisk, the police will need a warrant to use |
| 0:39.7 | triangulated cell phone data to as a forensic tool to find out certain information. |
| 0:49.2 | So what is that, what are we to take away from that in terms of going forward and looking at how |
| 0:55.4 | governments routinely make use of data that you and I as a technical legal matter |
| 1:00.5 | do not possess it is not part of our effects and papers and such. |
| 1:07.0 | Well I think it's definitely a win for privacy advocates, the case that you're describing. |
| 1:14.0 | I do want to caution though there's a very narrow ruling, so as you alluded to, |
| 1:18.0 | this involves cell site location information as revealed by phone data, but the court was very, very careful in its opinion to say that this case actually involves the physical |
| 1:35.0 | tracking of someone using this particular kind of data for more than seven days. |
| 1:40.3 | It's a very specific kind of surveillance that they're targeting and they made sure to mention that the ruling does not impact what I believe the Chief Justice called conventional surveillance methods like security cameras and things like that. |
| 1:52.6 | So it's an important case, but it's also narrow and leaves a lot of surveillance techniques |
| 1:57.9 | available to law enforcement without warrants. |
| 2:00.4 | And I think to just kind of go back to something that you mentioned at the outset, |
| 2:04.0 | Caleb, I think from my perspective at least, and I wrote this piece in the hill |
| 2:09.0 | last week that kind of addresses this, I think that any kind of data essentially that is generated |
| 2:15.7 | by your devices in my mind anyway is something that is your property that you do own and you're |
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