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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Surprising Witnesses Bring Receipts & Lori's FEISTY Cross Exam | Lori Vallow Daybell Day 3

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

The courtroom was packed as Lori Vallow Daybell's latest trial resumed in Phoenix. Day 3 brought explosive testimony, including a gripping cross-examination of a key witness and new revelations about the alleged conspiracy to murder Brandon Boudreaux. Brandon Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnLc7I2gyWtQ2L4_aCtEOlvmFBxegNf56&si=B6BQJgzco69lYoWL Limited Trial Merch: https://www.bonfire.com/store/hidden-true-crime-limited-merch/ About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at ⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. June 9th, 2020, five years ago today, I remember it vividly. It was the day that the remains of JJ, Valo, and Tiley Ryan were found buried in Chad Daybell's backyard. I was already emotionally invested by then. How could I not be? My husband, John, a criminal psychologist, and I had just recorded

0:22.4

our very first podcast episode. We were sitting at our kitchen table with microphones and a hundred

0:29.1

unanswered questions between us. That morning, I woke up to the news. The search warrant had

0:34.4

been executed at Chaddeville's property, but not the house this time.

0:39.2

It was his yard.

0:40.5

I was messaging a local contact in Rexburg who saw Chad leave his daughter Emma's house and speed off in his car.

0:48.3

And it's later, they watched police pull him over and handcuff him.

0:52.2

Finally.

0:53.3

I will never forget the heartbreak of hearing Larry and

0:56.7

K. Woodcock confirm that JJ had been found their beloved grandson, their little man, as they called him.

1:04.1

Later, we learned it was Brandon Boudreau, the same Brandon now testifying here in Arizona,

1:10.3

who stepped forward to identify JJ's remains.

1:13.6

Meanwhile, East Idaho News's Nate Eaton was overhead in a chopper reporting what he saw unfold in that backyard.

1:21.6

But none of us could have known, not yet, how horrific the scene truly was.

1:28.6

Tiley, she was so mutilated that her remains couldn't even be identified by sight.

1:34.2

That detail would come later, and it would haunt us.

1:38.0

Over the years, I have heard from so many people sharing where they were on that day,

1:42.9

how they felt what it did to them.

1:45.5

Heather Daybow, Chad's sister-in-law, spoke of her tears.

1:48.9

We all saw the Woodcock's hold each other and sob when the news was confirmed.

1:53.1

And today, Colby Ryan, Lori's only surviving child, shared his pain in a post on his YouTube

2:00.0

channel.

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