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Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Surgical M&M: Can We Do Better?

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Education, Science

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

M&M - we all do it, but what is its purpose? Join Jason and Nina as they talk to two experts about why we present at all, and what we can do to better reach the educational and quality improvement goals of morbidity and mortality conference.

Hosts: Jason Bingham, Nina Clark

Panelists
  • Keith Lillemoe, MD
    • Chief of Surgery, Massachusetts General Hospital
    • Professor of Surgery at the Harvard Medical School
  • Luise Pernar, MD, MHPE
    • Bariatric Surgeon
    • Associate Professor of Surgery, Boston University Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine
References
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/article-abstract/2810740
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26649585/

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0:00.0

Behind the surgery podcast, relevant and engaging content designed to help you dominate the day.

0:13.0

All right, welcome to Behind the Knife. Today's topic is the Morbidity and

0:27.2

mortality conference. Why we do it, how we can do it better. We are absolutely

0:31.0

pleased to have two very experienced panelists with us. We have Dr. Keith Lillimo, who's a friend of the show.

0:37.0

He's the chief of surgery at Mass General and a professor of surgery at Harvard,

0:40.0

as well as Dr. Luis Pernar, she is a bariatric surgeon and an associate professor of surgery at Boston University.

0:46.0

So Dr. Lillmo, Dr. Prenar, thank you for joining us today.

0:50.0

Good to be here.

0:51.0

So as we all know, M&M conference is a long-standing tradition, particularly

0:55.6

important in surgery and the overall goal of it should be improving patient care through

1:00.3

a systematic review of local cases where we review our bad outcomes.

1:04.8

Nita, Dr. Clark and I were speaking the other day and we're both have an interest in

1:10.3

how we can do this better at our own institutions. I think it's one of those things that

1:14.9

oftentimes unfortunately is not something that surgeons look forward to, you know talking about our mistakes and our errors.

1:22.2

And it's certainly something our trainees can dread have to get up at the podium

1:25.3

and talk about things that went wrong. In reality, I would like to see where people look

1:30.4

forward to M&M conference because it's an opportunity to improve and do things better.

1:35.6

So that's how this started.

1:37.6

So that's what I hope to get out of this.

1:39.2

I know pressure on you guys, but I'm looking for you guys to reinvigorate everybody's love of M&M conference.

1:44.6

So we'll start with Dr. Little now. How do we get here? You're from Mass General, there's a long story

1:49.7

to history of looking at data and quality improvements.

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