Hello and welcome to Overthink.

The podcast where two philosophy professors put philosophy in dialogue with everyday life.

I'm Ellie Anderson.

And I'm David Peña-Gusman.

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David, when I first proposed this episode to you, you had some questions for me.

I might be a California native and we might both live in the state, but neither of us regularly surfs.

So why would we devote an episode of our philosophy podcast to this somewhat specific activity?

But then I shared with you some research I had found about surfing and the good life, much of which is written by philosophers.

And you started to come around a bit.

So how are you feeling about it now that we've actually agreed to do this episode?

I know I was a hater at the beginning.

Now I'm obviously going to become a surfer.

But, you know, it's shocking how my view of something will do a complete 180 as long as I, like,

allow myself to think about it philosophically and more rigorously.

And that definitely happened with this topic.

But at the beginning, I was skeptical because surfing does seem like such a random topic for us to cover on overthrthink.

Yeah.

And I think, okay, so there's this book, I surf, therefore I am a philosophy of surfing, which begins by, I think, framing whom the book is for in a way that I think precisely indicates

whom our episode is for. It's for three kinds of people. Curious non-surfers, four surfers,

and for them, it's a manifesto. And for wannabe surfers. So you're maybe a wannabe surfer

or a curious non-surfer. I would consider myself in that same boat.

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