From the ACLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Kendall Seasmeyer, your host.

Another Supreme Court term has come to a close.

This year, the court delivered major decisions on voting rights, free speech,

indigenous sovereignty, and racial justice, among other issues. The ACLU was involved in cases

throughout the term, and in many ways, our wins exceeded our expectations. However, in the last

two days of the term, the court dropped decisions

overturning affirmative action, codifying discrimination in the name of free speech,

and blocking President Biden's student loan forgiveness plan. Here to help us reconcile our wins

and losses and break down the term is returning favorite

David Cole, the ACLU's National Legal Director. David, welcome back to At Liberty.

Thanks for having me. So, David, this year's Supreme Court term has shaped up to be much

less conservative than I think we all expected and feared. And it's very different from

last year's term when we saw a whopping 13 losses, the most memorable being the Dobbs decision

in June, which overturned Roe v. Wade. How would you describe the landscape of this term's

court compared to the last one?

Well, I think, you know, we all expected a kind of replay of last term.

We expected the court to overthrow precedent, to accept far-reaching conservative arguments

across the board.

It accepted for review a number of cases that raised

really serious constitutional challenges to all sorts of programs that were seeking to further

equality. And in the end, it was a mixed term, but a term in which, for example, the three

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