Supreme Court Sets Dangerous Precedent on Conversion Therapy
TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones
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🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
On March 31st of this year, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a therapist in Colorado who argued that the state’s ban on conversion therapy violated her freedom of speech. While the ruling does not endorse conversion therapy, it does allow the practice to continue, despite the fact that conversion therapy has been widely debunked as pseudoscience and dramatically increases the risk of depression and suicide in queer and trans youth. To understand the ruling and its impact, we hear from Mother Jones reporter Madison Pauly, who has been following the insidious rise of anti-trans conversion therapy, and Shannon Minter, the Legal Director of the National Center for LGBTQ Rights, who has been at the forefront of the legal battles for queer and trans rights for decades.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, fam, it's me, Amara. |
| 0:11.4 | Welcome to the Translash podcast, a show where we tell trans stories to save trans lives. |
| 0:20.4 | On March 31st of this year, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a mental health care provider in Colorado, |
| 0:26.7 | who argued that the state's ban on conversion therapy violated her freedom of speech in a decision that will reverberate for years to come. |
| 0:36.9 | Now, while their ruling did not technically |
| 0:38.8 | sign off on conversion therapy, it does greenlight the practice to continue. This despite the fact |
| 0:45.2 | that conversion therapy has been widely debunked as pseudoscience and is a harmful practice |
| 0:51.0 | that dramatically increases the risk of depression and suicide in queer and trans youth. |
| 0:57.0 | At Translash, we actually detailed this in season 2, episode 2 of the anti-trans hate |
| 1:03.5 | machine podcast. |
| 1:05.3 | We're dedicating today's show to unpacking the Supreme Court's ruling on conversion |
| 1:10.0 | therapy and taking a closer look at the |
| 1:12.9 | forces across America who continued to push it and why. First, we hear from Madison Polly, an investigative |
| 1:20.7 | reporter at Mother Jones who's been following the insidious rise of anti-trans conversion therapy, |
| 1:26.8 | which has taken her inside of the |
| 1:29.0 | conversion therapy movement. |
| 1:31.0 | They do see themselves as good people. |
| 1:33.1 | They really, truly are believers that they're helping the people who come to them. |
| 1:38.9 | Then we're speaking with Shannon Mentor, the legal director of the National Center for LGBTQ Rights, |
| 1:43.9 | who was just named as one of |
| 1:46.1 | Time Magazine's most influential people of 26, Shannon has been at the forefront of legal |
| 1:53.1 | battles for queer and trans rights for decades and helps us understand what this ruling means |
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