4.8 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
In a surprise move, the Supreme Court decided to leave the constitutional right to gay marriage in tact by refusing to accept for a review a case that could have been used to revoke that right.
Glenn spoke about this and other legal developments with law professor and constitutional scholar Kim Wehle.
Find Kim on Substack: kimwehle.substack.com
Find Glenn on Substack: glennkirschner.substack.com
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | It's time for Justice Matters with former federal prosecutor and legal analyst Glenn Kirshner. |
| 0:15.3 | Today, Glenn speaks with constitutional scholar Kim Whaley about the Supreme Court refusing to take the cases on revoking same-sex marriage. |
| 0:23.6 | That's next on Justice Matters. |
| 0:26.6 | Hey, I'm John Fuglesang. Do you ever watch these Christian nationalists and right-wing fundamentalists on TV and think, |
| 0:36.6 | Jesus Christ, these people are the opposite |
| 0:39.3 | of Jesus Christ. You know, Christianity was supposed to be about love and service, but millions |
| 0:44.3 | of Americans have grown up to find their nice religions been hijacked by this mean authoritarian, |
| 0:49.8 | tax-free click. I wrote a book about how these right-wingers aren't actually on the side of Jesus, |
| 0:54.9 | and historically, they never have been. Separation of church and hate, a sane person's guide to |
| 0:59.8 | taking back the Bible from fundamentalists, fascists, and flock-pleasing frauds. It's a very |
| 1:04.5 | irreverent and biblically correct book for believers, atheists, agnostics, and anybody who's ever |
| 1:09.3 | going to have to deal with a Christian extremist in your family, workplace, or government. |
| 1:13.5 | On all the issues that divide us, using actual verses from that book they claim to follow, they've |
| 1:18.6 | got a First Amendment right to twist the Bible to their liking. |
| 1:21.6 | You've got a First Amendment right to call them out for it, and you'll be surprised at how good it feels everybody welcome we've got our friend |
| 1:35.0 | kim waley back and i don't think she's been pulled over by the police but it looks like there's almost |
| 1:39.9 | like a flashing red light going on next to her i i've got the best lawyer in town if that happens. That's funny. That's funny. Glenn Kircher, man. It's like we're always working. If we're driving somewhere, we're working, if we're, you know, it's just, it never ends. It never ends. It never ends. Yeah, I've got, I still have kids at home. So it's it's one. You know, once we win this fight, Kim, and we will, I'm determined that we will win this fight. I'm going to at least take a long weekend. That's what I've decided. I'm going to take a three-day weekend just to just to relax and recover. Anywhere but Maralago, right? Yeah, exactly. |
| 2:18.4 | All right. |
| 2:19.3 | So let's get going and we'll give people a chance to sign on as we're talking. |
| 2:24.2 | So I have my friend and fellow justice warrior, Kim Whaley, back with me. |
| 2:29.4 | Kim is a constitutional law scholar. |
| 2:31.9 | She's a law professor at Baltimore University School of Law. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Crossover Media Group, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Crossover Media Group and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.