Hey, everyone. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the bulwark, and I'm joined by Rachel Jinfaza, who is our newest contributor. And for the purposes of this take, her inaugural take, we're going to be calling her our Gen Z whisper. She is an expert on how that young community is thinking. I'm not a member of it, although I might look like it to everyone else here. She is so she can tell us

what's going on. Rachel, thanks for doing this. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Sam, for having me.

I'm happy to be here chatting with you. All right. Well, this is to the people who are watching this,

a little sort of preamble before we get into this. This is one of those discussions that is

both deeply important and potentially

uncomfortable for a lot of folks because we're going to be diving into both polling data

and focus group data that we conducted that looks at how young people are responding to and reacting to the state of

Israel, to Jewish identity, to pluralism writ large, and why, I suppose, many people in this

cohort are comfortable engaging in what people would have otherwise considered bigotry or

anti-Semitism or just harsh attitudes towards people who are not like them. So some of the

stuff is very real and some of the stuff is difficult to talk about. And if Rachel or I

misstate something or state something that comes across maybe insensatively,

don't blame us. We're doing our best. We're trying to have an honest conversation about a important

matter. So let's start with this. The prompt for this was this NBC poll that came out fairly

recently. The dates of the poll are February 27th to March 3rd, and it looked at attitudes

towards Israel. And lo and behold, young voters, their views on Israel have turned sharply,

aggressively negative. If you're between the ages of 18 and 34, your positive view

towards Israel, according to this NBC poll, is just 13%. In 2003, that number was 26%. Your

negative view towards Israel now is 63%. In 2023, that was 37%. The numbers are better as you get to

older demographics, but frankly, in the 35 to 49 demo, it's not that great.

It's 20% positive, 43% negative.

It's really in the older demo where it gets more even.

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