And Hello. Hello and welcome to decoding the Guru's supplementary material with the cognitive

anthropologist Christopher Kaplan, the psychologist Matthew Bryan

here to talk about gurus and what they've been up to

gurus and what they've been up to

and all those kind of things

but it's been a while,

but the coding booth has been empty, sitting here underutilized.

What happened? What did you do? Where did you go?

You know very well. You've been away, haven't you? You've been off on a trip. Back to the old country.

Yeah, on the pilgrimage. I went back to the UK to London and to Oxford, both places I've spent time in, and I went to the spiritual homeland, the Emerald Isle, to

Belfast to see my family.

And I did also go down to Dublin just to fly out of the airport,

just to say hello Dublin. And I went to Switzerland and then I came back so I've been away from Japan for a while and I did log around all of those countries, a microphone with the best of intentions,

Matt, the best of intentions. But it's hard. It's hard to find the right mind space, the right mentality, the right empty room when you're

jumping around between locations and places.

So yeah.

See, Chris, I knew you taking your microphone

was an act of incredible optimism.

I knew, when you say things to me, like, oh,

it'll be fine, I'll record on the road I know it's never going to happen but you know what I don't

contradict you I just say yes Chris we'll record then and you were just telling me that this is a cultural fault of you and your people.

This is a thing, an Irish thing.

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