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supernatural grandparenting. Hey, I'm Jeff Kavans. How do you simplify your life? How do you study the Bible?

All the way from motorcycle trips to raising kids, we're going to talk about the faith and life in general.

It's the Jeff Kaven Show.

And it's good to be with you once again.

Today we have a great show for you. Another show, something that really is at the center of my life right now. And if it's not at the center of your life, it probably will someday be at the center of your life.

And that's being a grandparent, and who would have guessed that I would have been a grandparent at

such a young age.

But at 59 years old, I am am I'm the grandfather of two little boys

Francis and Dominic, Franceso and Dominic and they are the center of our life

Emily and and I just enjoy them so much.

And I was reflecting on this the other day and thinking to myself,

you know, there's an art to being a grandparent.

You know, right away, you have so much respect from these little these little boys but you got to step

up to the plate as grandparents and deliver more than candy and going out to movies

and that type of thing but we're going to talk about that today.

But before we get into our topic today,

I want to talk to you a little bit about the show in general.

And that is, we so appreciate the feedback that we're getting from you it's incredible it's

phenomenal and it's very very helpful and we're working hard not only to put out

these these shows but also to give you the information behind the show. In other words, the other day

we were talking about spiritual optometry and how your vision with your eyes

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