Welcome to the podcast Think Bivocally, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host, Sean McDow, Professor of Christian Apologetics at Talbot School

of Theology Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Scott Ray, Dean of the Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics, also

at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. and of the Master of Theology Program at Western Seminary in Portland, Oregon.

But to me, what's so interesting about Professor Miles is a book that he wrote and it's called

Superheroes Can't Save You. The moment I saw this book my first thought was

why didn't I think of this and second we got to get this guy on the show so

Professor Miles Todd thanks for joining us now it's really good to be here

thanks so I read the opening of your book I read your whole book but at the beginning you

describe the story of going and reading comics as a kid and it brought me back to elementary school

and junior high and you've found a way to wed two loves that you have

superheroes and theology. Can you tell me about the story behind the book?

Well, that's essentially what it is.

I grew up a little bit of a comic book nerd.

Now true comic book nerds would call me a bit of a poser. So I'll just confess that right now. But to non-comic-book nerds, I would be a comic book nerd. There's no doubt about that. And what I found when I was teaching church history

and the doctrine of Jesus Christ

is that when we approach the topics of the person of Christ, who he is, thinking about the hypostatic

union, how Jesus is both fully human and fully divine.

It's really difficult to wrap your arms, your mental arms around that because there's really nothing that

approaches that in nature. You know, there's no ready illustration for that. But what I found was that as we're working through the

heresies, because as you know oftentimes it's easier to describe what something isn't

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