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I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most

valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present. Your journey to

become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now.

Hello. Hello. Hi. Okay, let's start, okay? Yeah. So this is for Elle. First of all, tell me why you're

doing this for Elle. Well, what I've been doing with Elle, which you know, they've been so kind,

is they've really embraced house laboratories, the beauty company that have started.

And I'm very close friends with the editor Steven Gann. I've known him for over a decade.

And I really want to do something special for this issue. And quite frankly, there's no other person

on the planet other than you than I would rather do this with. Oh, thank you. Thank you. So first of

all, I just want to say, I first interviewed you almost 10 years ago in 2010 on the Oprah show.

And I could see then and feel energetically you blossoming into yourself. You were at this moment

where you were wide open to your own self discovery and self expression. I could feel that.

Thank you. And I want to know how have you become more of yourself in the past 10 years?

I think after the past 10 years, as my career has grown and changed and I've done different things,

I've really become very mindful of my position in the world and my responsibility to humanity

and for those who follow me. And I consider myself to be a kindness punk. I look back at everything

I've done and I look at what I'm doing now and punk's have a reputation for being rebellious,

right? And outsiders in a lot of ways. So for me, I really view my career and even what I'm

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