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Oprah's Super Soul

Super Soul Special: Jean Houston: Lessons from 'The Wizard of Oz'

Oprah's Super Soul

Oprah

Society & Culture

4.633.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Originally aired April 25, 2018. American philosopher and best-selling author Jean Houston describes herself as an "evocateur of the possible" and a "midwife of souls." She sits down with Oprah to talk about her expansive career, mythologist Joseph Campbell, her work with luminaries like Hillary Clinton and the moment she had her spiritual awakening at age 6. Jean discusses her book "The Wizard of Us: Transformational Lessons from Oz," which examines the timeless American classic "The Wizard of Oz," a mythic tale brimming with spiritual insights and lessons. Jean reveals how Dorothy's journey can be a catalyst to live an authentic life filled with heart, brains and courage. Oprah also shares her favorite spiritual lesson from "The Wizard of Oz."

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0:00.0

I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most

0:07.8

valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present. Your journey

0:16.6

to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now.

0:24.1

She is known as a scholar, a philosopher, and a visionary.

0:29.1

Jean Houston is a prolific writer who has traversed this globe, lecturing, teaching,

0:36.4

consulting with world leaders along the way. She says her life has been

0:41.1

devoted to pushing the boundaries of human potential. I just love that. After six decades of this work,

0:49.2

she's become known as one of the elder spiritual states women of our time. You are one good-looking 75-year-old.

0:56.0

Oh, thank you.

0:57.0

I'm half-Cicillian.

0:58.0

It's 4,000 years of olive oil rates.

1:00.0

Is that what it is?

1:01.0

Is that what it is?

1:02.0

Or is it your gene pool, your spiritual gene pool?

1:07.0

I think it's a passion for the possible.

1:10.0

I think it's living in this, which must be the most

1:14.0

interesting time in human history, where what we do will make a profound difference as to whether

1:18.8

we grow or whether we perish. And it's that sense of urgency and possibility, the lure of

1:25.4

becoming, I think that keeps me going. I've worked in 108 countries, and I see, you know, I'm very positive because I'm there to see how people come together, how they help each other, how they cross the great divide of otherness.

1:41.3

Are you, do you marvel at the breadth and depth of your 75 years here on the planet?

1:49.0

Well, I've been very fortunate.

1:51.0

See, I grew up in a comical family.

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