I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now.

When I first met Caroline Mace, I was a little scared of her because she can read your

energy.

And so I was the first time I was like trying to make sure all my energies in the right place.

She can read your girl.

So the first time Caroline was on the Oprah show was in the late 90s for her book called

Anatomy of the Spirit. Anybody in here remember that?

And I think this is about 97 or 98.

And we were just talking, talking, talking.

My favorite shows were exactly what I'm doing now.

It took me a while to get to it.

So I only wanted to do the shows after a while that we're talking about spiritual things,

meaningful things.

But you can't live on ratings with that for a very long time.

So I would sneak in shows like that whenever I could.

So we were talking about Anatomy of the Spirit on broadcast television at 4 o'clock in the

afternoon.

And I looked out in the audience and the people were looking at their shoes, they were looking

at their wallet, they were looking all around at each other.

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