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Oprah's Super Soul

Super Soul Special: Carole Bayer Sager: Music as Prayer

Oprah's Super Soul

Oprah

Society & Culture

4.633.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Oprah sits down with Carole Bayer Sager, the Grammy-, Golden Globe- and Oscar-winning singer/songwriter and painter, to discuss her legendary career. Carole shares the stories behind some of her biggest songs, including "That's What Friends Are For" and "The Prayer." One of the most prolific writers in pop history, Carole has worked with numerous legendary performers, such as Barbra Streisand, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion and Stevie Wonder. In her memoir, "They're Playing Our Song," Carole reflects on her spiritual journey both in and out of the recording studio, including her decadelong marriage to, and painful divorce from, composer and singer Burt Bacharach. She opens up about how her mother's harsh criticism of her weight led to lifelong emotional insecurity. Nevertheless, Carole says she found healing in her songwriting and believes that her life's purpose has always been to touch others' hearts through her work and to help them feel connected and less alone.

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0:00.0

I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most

0:07.8

valuable gifts you can give yourself is time. Taking time to be more fully present. Your journey

0:16.6

to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now.

0:24.5

Nominated for a Tony, an Oscar, a Grammy, an Emmy, and a Golden Globe, Carol has co-written

0:31.5

hit after hit, like, nobody does it better, author's theme. Don't cry out loud.

0:38.0

And it's my turn.

0:39.9

Just saying the words, it makes me want to sing them all.

0:42.2

But I'd spare you that, Super Solars.

0:44.7

Her roster of legendary performers include

0:47.4

Barbara Streisand, Dinah Ross,

0:49.6

Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Celine Dion, and Stevie Wonder.

0:53.3

In her new book, they're playing our song.

0:56.1

Carol reflects on her spiritual journey both in and out of the recording studio,

1:01.2

including the funny, difficult, and deeply personal stories behind many of her hit songs.

1:08.1

You know, when you look at the sheer volume, your success is really kind of staggering.

1:15.6

It's kind of awesome because you've written all these songs over the years that are the themes for our lives.

1:24.6

It's more than just the soundtracks.

1:26.6

There are themes for where we were in our lives.

1:30.3

And I'm just curious as to what you tap into

1:35.3

to bring that kind of art that resonates with the world

1:42.3

into a form that's called songwriting?

1:47.0

Well, I've always believed in my heart that the best songs, the ones that resonate in my soul,

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