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Welcome to the Meenikai show featuring Lenny, the only NFL podcast for one of the hosts thinks a smash concept is what his mom does to his food before putting it in his bowl.

That's Lenny, I'm Meenikai.

I'm not only talking about the Super Bowl, everything is led up to this, but I feel like I have the perfect guest for this episode.

It's his second time on our podcast.

He has his own podcast called Jeff Schwartz, smart and new.

That revealed his name because it's in the name of his podcast.

It's Jeff Schwartz.

Thank you so much for joining us this week Jeff.

I am glad to be here. I'm doing much better than the GameStop stock is right now, so things are looking up for me.

I'm excited to talk about the Super Bowl.

The game's that feels like already like five weeks ago.

That's not like so many things happen now all the time that it already it was not. It wasn't even a week ago, but I've already I've moved past my GameStop jokes.

I've been making one on maybe every ESPN program and did not get a lot of light laughs out of Adam Schaefter sadly, but Jeff, you know, okay, so first of all, a little housekeeping.

We're going to talk about Super Bowl Super Bowl.

We're going to break down both sides of the ball, but the Rams kind of threw a wrench into our plans to focus entirely on the GameStop.

I'm going to talk a lot more about the Rams and the Lions and the Matt Stafford Gerard Gough trade as the offseason goes on, but I do want to take some time today to give initial thoughts on that.

So thinking half time break today instead of 10 questions, you and I can, you know, just I want to say grade the trades, but just give our initial thoughts.

I've let it marinate I've gone through like I think this is a it's a fascinating trade for like bigger picture reasons that go far beyond the two teams like philosophical football reasons, but it's also a trade where I think you can legit it's not like you know de under Hopkins, where I was like I don't really want to talk about this is an insane trade this trade I feel like you can make a case.

For and against the Rams, I have heard people do it, so I want to hear your thoughts on that, but first I want to hear your thoughts on obviously the game, the cheese and you're a great guest in every way you're very smart and analytical and you cover the league, but you are

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