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And today at the Philadelphia Eagles, we're at the White House, not all of them.

Jalen Hertz, the quarterback, the MVP, snubbed Trump, did not attend.

And the only other, I guess, notable news is J.D. Vance also was not there.

So there was no harming of any trophies.

Pablo, thanks for coming on to chat.

Do you have any big picture thoughts on the Jalen snub?

Yeah, he wasn't alone.

You know, this was a lot of, I'm looking at this photo from the White House.

This is a lot of backups, man.

Like, no Jalen Hertz, no A.J. Brown, no Devante Smith. You know, a lot of the members of the defense, by the way, a lot of the black players, frankly, the starters did not show up? And of course we can do the game of like why,

which part of the current experience of being an American

did they not want to co-sign here?

But it's pretty remarkable that they in large quantities, the starters, the guys who actually won the Super Bowl, were like, yeah, we're not going to be used as a prop by this administration and this guy. Yeah, it's interesting because I, so, you know, not being, like football is a funny sport. Like I watched this amount of football, more college. But since they all have helmets on, you know, and since it's not my job, like, you're like, I don't know what A.J. Brown looks like. I don't think if A.J. Brown showed up to, you know, dat dog down the street from me here.

I'm not sure I would know that it's AJ Brown. And so it's hard for me to tell. It was easy for anyone watching to tell that Trump had a favorite, though, which was Sequan Berkeley, who went golfing with Trump, who Trump wouldn't shut up about. And so I think the fact that Trump kept mentioning Sequan, Sequin, Sequin, Sequan. And then there ends up being an MVP chant for Sequan, who notably did not win the MVP, I think is pretty telling.

But what did you make? I don't know, is Sequan like, is he a Maga guy or, you know, what, you know, what's happening there, do we think?

I think it's remarkable that Sequan didn't just show up to this day of festivities.

He showed up a day early and played golf with them.

Look, as with all of this, right, the question is going to be how intentional was your participation?

And when it comes to the bonus day of I went and hung out at the club,

at the golf club with Trump and a bunch of guys,

so I'm still trying to identify, by the way.

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