Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to this Sunday special human events. I'm here joined

with Tyler Boyer, a turn point action. Hey, Jack. It's you.

I'm putting off a certain it's very good to be here as well. We're in Phoenix, Arizona.

Tyler, everybody is asking me about that show we did earlier this week, but everyone has a huge

problem with it. You know what it is? And because that show was only about what 24 minutes, 25

minutes long, and even Alex Clark was listening to it. And she said, I was getting ready the other day,

I was listening to your guys conversation and then bam, it cut off. And I wish it was longer. So

I said, all right, guys, can we get on Tyler's dance card? Can we reach out to him? Is his last

wallets open? Is it open? And he said it was. His Friday was open in the afternoon. So we're

recording this. We are here. And Tyler, we were talking about a lot of stuff. And I wanted to

frame this as sort of a 2023 action plan for for the movement, for the way things are, for the

generation, things are going out there. I for me, I can't get past this idea. And I'm looking at

Pennsylvania. This idea of elections have changed. Right. The process of elections has changed.

And if you think that just holding a rally and going out there and putting up some TV ads and

getting your message out, et cetera, is what you need in the era of vote by mail, in the era of

these massive ballot harvesting campaigns. Because that's what it is now. It's, it's, there's a

difference now between a ballot and a vote. A vote means you went to the polling place and you

stood out in the sleet, in the snow, in the rain, whatever it is in Arizona, the heat. And, and you,

and you waited for hours and hours, but a ballot. Ballot is just check, check, done. And to what

they're doing is they're trying to normalize this idea of not just vote by mail, right? And I

think I'm trying to look past the horizon on this a little bit. Look over the horizon. Because

they're not just trying to normalize vote by mail. They're trying to normalize vote from home,

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