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Welcome to the latest edition of Until Saturday.

I'm Ari Wasserman, joined by Dave Ubin and another friend of ours.

Audrey Snyder, our Penn State beat writer, Midwest recruiting specialist, and just a hell of a writer.

And what we're going to do on this show is Chuck it deep.

If you don't know what that means, you're going to find out.

Audrey, thank you so much for taking time after a busy weekend to join us.

You almost were covering a game that could have gone a little bit differently there. How are we doing this weekend? I'm great.

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