Happy Sunday, TED Talks Daily listeners. I am your host, Elise Hugh. Today we're bringing you a Sunday pick where we share an episode of another podcast from the TED Audio Collective, handpicked by us for you. With everything going on in the world right now, it's impossible to not have our beliefs confronted at one point or another.

So we're sharing a recent episode of How to Be a Better Human, where host Chris Duffy sat down with professor and researcher, Tenel Porter.

They have a practical conversation about what to do when your view of the world is challenged.

Tonell's job is to study humility, specifically intellectual humility, the idea that we might

be wrong or mistaken about some of our beliefs. She and Chris dig into why she thinks

intellectual humility is so important, how to cultivate it, and why it's the missing piece in so

many conversations. Whether it's politics, academia, or social media, Tonell argues discovering

you're wrong doesn't have to be a painful realization, but can lead to positive discovery.

How to Be a Better Human is a show that looks in unexpected places for new

ways to improve or show up for one another. If you want to hear more insights like this, listen to

how to be a better human wherever you get your podcasts. Learn about the TED Audio Collective at

odiocollective.com. That's coming up right after a short break.

You're listening to How to Be a Better Human. I am your host, Chris Duffy. One thing about me is that no one has ever accused me of having a small head. I have a big head both literally in that I have trouble finding hats that fit and figuratively in that I think that I should stand on stage and have audiences of strangers listen to me talk. And I host a podcast called How to Be a Better Human. Humility, not really my strong suit. Today's guest,

Teneal Porter, is a professor and a researcher who studies humility. She's an important person

for me to talk to. But Teneal studies a very specific kind of humility, intellectual humility.

And that's actually a term that I had never heard of before meeting her.

And now it's one that I cannot stop thinking about.

Intellectual humility seems to me like it is the key piece that is missing from so many conversations in the world today.

It really feels like this is something that more people need to know about.

And here's how Teneal defines intellectual humility.

Intellectual humility means understanding what you don't know and recognizing that you might be wrong.

Of course, all of us think that we're right, and sometimes we are right,

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