Happy Sunday, TED Talks Daily listeners. It's Elise Hugh. As we often do on Sundays, today we're sharing a recent episode of another podcast from the TED Audio Collective, handpicked by Us for You. Margaret Atwood is best known as the author of The Handmaid's Tale. She's won a slew of awards for her novels and poetry collections and children's books.

Now, at the age of 86, she's written her first memoir, The Book of Lives.

In this episode of Rethinking, host Adam Grant speaks with Margaret about how much today's reality seems like the stuff of science fiction.

They also discuss the jobs AI will and won't like the stuff of science fiction. They also discuss the jobs

AI will and won't threaten, the benefits of reading banned books, and why she thinks that

heroes always need monsters. To hear more deep conversations, you can find rethinking wherever

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Now on to the episode right after a short break.

How do you feel about having enemies?

I think it's a part of life.

And anyway, if you didn't have any, what sort of boring person are you?

Hey, everyone, it's Adam Grant.

Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the Science of What Makes Us Tick.

I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people

to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

Margaret Atwood is the author best known for The Handmaid's Tale.

She's won a slew of awards for her novels, poetry collections,

nonfiction, and children's books.

And now, for the first time in 86 years, she's written a memoir, The Book of Lives.

It's one of her first books published in the era of AI, which she has quite a few thoughts about.

People want to feel they're connecting with another human mind.

And if it is AI, they're not connecting with another human mind. They are connecting with an amalgam of other human minds

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