Sunday Night Blues Edition

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🗓️ 18 February 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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On this week’s episode: Jamilah and Elizabeth are joined by Zenovia Stephens, founder and CEO of Black Kids Adventures. They strategize ways a mom can help her tween power through her Sunday night blues. Then they debate if large age gaps between kids really leads to emotional distance and weak bonds between siblings.

In Slate Plus: Zenovia talks about the importance of getting yourself and your kids outside. Slate Plus members get a bonus segment on MADAF each week, and no ads. Sign up now to listen and support our work.

Recommendations:

Elizabeth recommends a wireless pocket microscope for outdoor adventures.

Zenovia recommends Vanicream Moisturizing Cream.

Jamilah recommends cooking with flavored butters, specifically truffle butter.

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0:00.0	The following podcast contains explicit language.
0:04.9	Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parenting Podcasts for Thursday, February 18th, the Sunday Night Blues Edition.
0:13.0	I'm Jemaila Lemieux, a writer, contributor to Slate's Karen Feeding Parenting column, and the co-host of Slate's new Wednesday Night Live program,
0:23.3	Wild or Wise. And most importantly, Mom to Naima, who is seven, and we live in Los Angeles,
0:29.7	California. I'm Elizabeth New Camp. I write the homeschool and family travel blog Dutch Dutch
0:35.2	Goose, and I'm the mom to three little, Henry who's eight,
0:38.1	Oliver, who's six, and Teddy who's four. And we live in Navar, Florida. I'm Zanavia Stevens,
0:44.8	the CEO and founder of Black Kids Adventures. I have three sons, eight, eight, five, and two.
0:52.3	And we live in Huntsville, Alabama. Zenoovia, it is so nice to have you here today. I should share
0:59.2	that Zinobia is my step-sister. Yes. My father, her mother, were in a very long-term loving
1:06.8	relationship. And even though they're no longer together, they're good friends. And so, you know, we are extended family sisters. But Elizabeth and Zenovia had connected over Zenovia's
1:18.8	work. And do you want to tell the story, Elizabeth? We were taking a trip to Alabama and I was,
1:24.9	you know, going through Instagram. And it's like, this woman and her beautiful family are doing all the things I want to do.
1:31.8	So I was able to connect with Zinovia and just get lots of hints about where to go.
1:38.9	And then also found out, you know, the work that she does getting kids into nature and just love the kind of
1:44.8	tips and stuff she's always posting about how to do that. That's definitely something that I try
1:48.9	to do with the kids. And then she messaged me after I posted something on Jamila on your
1:54.7	Instagram. And I think at that moment, Jamil and I hatched a plan to get Zinovia on the show.
2:00.6	Yes.
2:01.9	And luckily, Dan, being the slacker that he is, gave us an opportunity by taking yet
2:08.7	another week off.
2:09.7	So we were so happy to have you here.
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