Sunday Nice Things: The Nanny Wars

Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Jo Piazza, Influence Inc.

Society & Culture, Kids & Family, Parenting, Personal Journals, Technology

4.3 • 833 Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re bringing back one of my favorite episodes because it has only become more relevant. On the surface, it is a story about “bad nanny” posts in mom groups. Underneath, it is a story about money, power, and the invisible labor that holds up our entire childcare system. Join our newsletter community here. ORDER EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Think about cheese.
0:02.0	Make your thoughts cheesier.
0:04.2	Now add 100% chicken breast fillet, Chipotle sauce and amadea cheese melt.
0:08.3	And it's giving the new cheesy chicken stack at McDonald's.
0:12.0	Did we mention it's cheesy?
0:13.9	Cheese.
0:15.8	Availments with the 4th of Jan, 2026 from 11 a.m.
0:18.1	Plus and participation may vary.
0:19.2	Subjects availability.
0:21.5	Hey all, Joey here and you are listening to Under the Influence. Today's episode is what we
0:26.8	used to call a rerun. And if you know what that is, you're probably my target audience.
0:32.4	I love this episode so much. It's about the power dynamics inherent in caregiving,
0:36.9	the labor inherent in caregiving, the labor inherent in caregiving,
0:39.3	and the business of caregiving.
0:42.6	On its surface, it's an interview about some so-called nanny wars, but it's also about so much
0:48.0	more than that.
0:49.2	And I truly think that anyone who has ever done any caregiving or hired someone else to care give can
0:56.0	really, really relate to this episode. Enjoy. On today's episode, we're talking to Jen Vachner from The Cut.
1:13.7	Jen doesn't normally cover motherhood and parenting.
1:17.3	She covers business and Wall Street and power.
1:21.1	And when she pitched this story, it first seemed like a parenting story.
1:25.6	But frankly, this is a story about business, and it is a story about
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