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Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Sunday Nice Things: How to Write a Good Book with Andi Bartz

Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Jo Piazza, Influence Inc.

Society & Culture, Parenting, Kids & Family, Personal Journals, Technology

4.3787 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

What do writing a thriller, running a marathon, and raising small humans have in common? At some point, you’re convinced you’re doing it all wrong. This week on Sunday Nice Things I down with bestselling author Andrea Bartz (The Last Ferry Out) to talk about the messy middle of any creative process—when everything feels like garbage and your brain is screaming “just quit.” If you've ever felt stuck in the middle of something hard—writing a book, parenting, being a human in the world—this episode is for you. Check out Andi's newsletter here. GET IT WRITE Join our newsletter community here. Pre-order EVERYONE IS LYING TO YOU here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Are you looking for the perfect summer read? Look no further than everyone is lying to you,

0:05.2

the Tradwife murder mystery that everyone is talking about. I would be lying if I said that I didn't

0:10.4

want you to order everyone is lying to you right now so that it shows up on your doorstep on July 15th

0:15.2

and you can devour it in one sitting while wearing a nap dress and stealing your neighbor's sourdough.

0:20.5

Everyone is lying to you is an absolute delight, but don't take my word for it.

0:24.5

Publishers Weekly said it is darkly entertaining and delivers the goods.

0:28.6

New York Times bestselling author Sarah Shepard called it a fun, twisty mystery that she was obsessed with.

0:34.8

And my own husband told me that I am a sick, sick person for writing it. I mean, seriously,

0:39.8

order now before J.D. Vance bans it.

0:47.3

Happy Sunday. I am writing this very jet lad from the Catskills. I just landed from Croatia, from the Adriatic Writers

0:56.1

conference, where I wrapped up a week of teaching and workshopping, which is something I've never done.

1:02.3

And I absolutely loved so much, so much. I actually finished a very dark and weird dystopian short story about a world where

1:14.2

all men are born infertile and have to qualify for their vasectomy reversals. It is,

1:20.8

it's messed up, it is, but also deeply satisfying in the world that we live in right now.

1:26.1

I also turned in the lost masterpiece, my next novel,

1:30.0

which is coming out next summer. And that is what brings me to this episode. This week,

1:37.0

instead of dropping a new podcast in your feed, I'm dropping an author talk, an author talk

1:41.5

with someone who has an excellent new book coming out on Tuesday. Andy Barts,

1:46.0

her new thriller is the last fairy out, and it is Chef's Kiss.

1:51.6

Andy is a brilliant thriller author, and I brought her on for very selfish reasons, because I'm in

1:57.5

that phase of revisions on my new novel where I feel like everything sucks.

2:04.0

I mean, and I know it doesn't.

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