All referent and occasionally random. The Sunday hang with play and buck podcast starts now.

First, I got to tell you guys breaking news here.

Play Travis. We're going to put this up at clay and buck.com.

And I'm just getting you a little context.

Clay said, you know, yeah, I think I do like a hundred pushups.

And I was like, Clay, I know people who do 100 pushups and they are massive

mounds of muscle, not necessarily massive, but they're super, super strong.

And Clay's like, none of you to understand. I definitely like rocked.

Like we'll call it like 50 ish, which is still 50 strict pushups is solid.

I know it's pretty good at pushups. It's my only real athletic ability.

50 is very, I be 50 at one, you know, this isn't like 20 and then 20 and then 10.

This is like going straight. And I'm like, Clay, 50 is solid.

Like that's not, that's not bad. So he, he produces, I'm going to give him credit.

He produces tape. He went on, you got to, first of all, what year was this?

Or put this up on clay and buck.com. What show was this?

That's my show. So I did for people out there who don't know.

I did four years of sports gambling.

I love to gamble on sports. People know I like sports.

We did a sports gambling show. We had a lot of fun. You had to make picks and

like anybody out there who gambles on sports is the tough business to get in.

And, uh, and I bet Joel Klaat, who a lot of people out there, if you're big

10 football fans, Joel is the lead college football voice for Fox Sports.

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