The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

This is a global player original podcast.

Boris Johnson asked me to do something that I wasn't prepared to do because I didn't think it was right.

That was to either overrule the Holak committee or to make promises with people. Now, I didn't think it was right. That was to either overrule the Holak committee or to make promises

with people. Now, I wasn't prepared to do that. As I said, I didn't think it was right. And if people

don't like that, then tough. That was the Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, hanging his predecessor,

Boris Johnson, out to dry. He's come out fighting. He's telling us publicly

that he rejected Boris Johnson's requests to bend the rules, break the rules for his resignation

honours list. A few moments ago, we got the response from Boris Johnson, who said Rishi Sunak is talking rubbish.

To honour these peerages, it wasn't necessary to overrule the appointments committee of the House of Lords,

but simply to ask them to renew their vetting, a mere formality.

This is what open warfare looks like between Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. And in a way the framing for what is happening,

not only in London, but in Edinburgh as well with Nicola Sturgeon's arrest, is as we turn into

this new political week. How, if you're a leader

who has followed a titan in your politics, a predecessor from your own party, who is causing you

endless trouble, how do you deal with them? Do you keep them close? Do you put distance between you and them?

And what is the cost if you do so?

Welcome to the Newsagents.

This is Emily in Newsagents HQ.

And it's Lewis in Edinburgh in Hollyroo, the Scottish Parliament.

And we'll be talking about the SMP later.

And indeed, another Titan who has left us, Berlusconi.

...