Sunak squares up, Farage steps in
Radical with Amol Rajan
BBC
4.5 • 919 Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2024
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Amol and Nick look at two possible game-changers in week two of the election campaign: Nigel Farage returning to lead Reform UK, and Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer facing off in the first head-to-head debate of the campaign.
They’re joined by Cleo Watson – a former deputy chief of staff to Boris Johnson in No10 and now a novelist - and Peter Kellner, former president of pollsters YouGov.
Episodes of The Today Podcast will land twice a week during the election campaign. Subscribe on BBC Sounds to get Amol and Nick's take on the biggest stories of the week, with insights from behind the scenes at the UK's most influential radio news programme. If you would like a question answering, get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 4346 or email us Today@bbc.co.uk
The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson, both presenters of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the UK’s most influential radio news programme. Amol was the BBC’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the BBC’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor.
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The senior producer is Tom Smithard, the producers are Hatty Nash and Joe Wilkinson. The editor is Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths. Technical production from Phil Bull.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.9 | Might we look back at this as the week the election changed? |
| 0:09.8 | Hmm, could it be that the Sunak versus Stama head-to-head changed everything? |
| 0:14.8 | Spoiler? |
| 0:15.7 | Yeah, maybe. |
| 0:16.5 | Could it be that Nigel Farad entering the race changed things? |
| 0:20.4 | Spoiler, probably. Could it be that something that Farage entering the race changed things? Spoiler, probably. |
| 0:22.1 | Could it be that something that hasn't happened yet changed everything? |
| 0:25.6 | Spoiler, it's not happened yet, so we don't actually know. |
| 0:28.6 | We're going to discuss all this with some insightful guests. |
| 0:32.9 | So, Sunnac squares up, Farage steps in. |
| 0:36.4 | Let's do it. |
| 0:37.0 | Let's do it. |
| 0:51.1 | Hello, it's Nick in the Today Podcast Studio. |
| 0:54.0 | And it's a mole alongside you in real life. |
| 1:11.2 | We're not sort of AI connected. I think we're actually here. I could reach out and touch you, which I won't because that'd be weird. But it's nice to see you in the flesh. It's good to be back. So who won? Endless polls. You can look on social media. You can talk to your friends. But I'm actually pretty clear about this. What would you be saying if you were the political letter to the BBC on the 10 o'clock news tonight? I'd say the test |
| 1:15.4 | that matters, by far not the only test, but the test that matters is who is happier the day |
| 1:22.3 | after a debate than they were the day before. And the answer to that, I think, is pretty clear. |
| 1:28.1 | Rishish to do that. Why? |
| 1:29.2 | Well, think of where he was. |
| 1:31.1 | He pulls this great surprise to call an election. |
| 1:34.2 | But pretty much ever since, everything that could go wrong has got wrong. |
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