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Hello and welcome to coffeehouse shots, the Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Max Jeffrey and I'm joined by Isabel Hardman and James Heel.

Rishi Sunak was in front of the liaison committee this afternoon.

Isabelle how did it go for the Prime Minister?

Well he said in his interview with Katie in the Christmas issue of the

spectator which is out now that he doesn't recognize a description of himself as

as Techie, but he was, I'm afraid to say Techie at today's committee session and he, I'd say he was nonpartisan in his tetchiness in that he got

crossed with Alicia Kearns who's the the conservative chair of the committee.

Well, is getting cross with Sarah Champion,

who is the Labour chair of the International Development Committee. And I think part of his

touchiness is a sort of an irritation with those who don't immediately appear to understand his point of view,

which to a certain extent is, I wouldn't say that's not the role of a select committee

chair, but I think when you're having these

questioning sessions to probe somebody's point of view to make sure that they are actually

that they've actually based it on a firm foundation is quite important and he seems to get particularly annoyed when people do that.

So there was an exchange between him and Sarah Champion on international aid, which was largely

characterized by Sarah Champion being disappointed that he had dropped the 0.7% spending commitment and soon arguing that it was the right decision.

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