Ingram Smith, Bud Elliott back again for another episode of The No Cast.

We have quite the show here. A lot of different things that we need to get to touch on.

Off a lot has happened since the last time we've talked.

And not really referring to the bull game either. We'll give it a cursory three minutes or so,

but really most of the conversation tonight will be about the staff composition of the staff and

maybe what type of information we can glean from what Norvell has been able to do in his first

month. And it also will be a lot about part of the roster that he was able to retain.

So speaking of retention, let's thank our friends and new Iberia, Louisiana,

100% retention there and the fact that they've been with us since day one and been a vital element

to The No Cast. Being able to enjoy some of the success that it has. So, as always,

want to thank our friends at Louisiana Hot Sauce and with that, Bud, why don't we put a quick little

recap on the old Tony, the Tiger Bowl and jump into some of the more positive conversations.

Yeah, Florida State loses two years on the state. That's kind of what I think we thought would happen.

A little bit lower scoring than I expected to have happened, but you got that many guys out.

I don't think Florida State on the whole cared about this bull game. And you got some kids crying

at the end and all this, you know, taking to Twitter, oh, I won't let you down next year and all

that kind of stuff, which is an emotional thing. Some of those players will definitely let you down

in the future and some of them probably won't, right? That's just human nature and nobody's perfect.

But you can't tell me that Florida State really cared about this bull game in terms of its prep

for the bull game, right? You had all these coaches looking elsewhere. You had players considering

your futures. It pretty fragmented team that they didn't care about this bull game. And I think

it honestly showed in how sloppy they were, right? So I don't know. I'm just strangely not bothered

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