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Unbiased Science

Summer Rerun: Nothing 'Measly' About It: Tracking The Unfortunate Return Of Measles

Unbiased Science

@unbiasedscipod

Education, Health & Fitness, Science

4.5 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Hello Unbiased Scientists! We’re taking a little break for summer, but in the meantime we are re-airing some of our very favorite episodes as well as some of YOUR favorites. We will still be posting infographics to our socials as well as longer form content on our Substack at ⁠theunbiasedscipod.substack.com⁠ and some short form video clips from episodes as well as some NEW short form content to our YouTube channel over the summer. So if you’re not following us already, check out the links below. Be sure to leave us a review and drop some comments on our socials with questions or topics you want to see us cover. We love hearing from you! Thanks for being here and we’ll see you a couple of months with some fresh new episodes for season SIX of Unbiased Science, your trusted source for no nonsense, just science! Find us on all social media platforms! Substack: ⁠https://theunbiasedscipod.substack.com/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/unbiasedscipod⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/unbiasedscipod⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/unbiased-science-podcast/posts/⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://instagram.com/unbiasedscipod⁠ TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@unbiasedscipod⁠ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interested in advertising with us? Please reach out to [email protected], with “Unbiased Science” in the subject line. PLEASE NOTE: The discussion and information provided in this podcast are for general educational, scientific, and informational purposes only and are not intended as, and should not be treated as, medical or other professional advice for any particular individual or individuals. Every person and medical issue is different, and diagnosis and treatment requires consideration of specific facts often unique to the individual. As such, the information contained in this podcast should not be used as a substitute for consultation with and/or treatment by a doctor or other medical professional. If you are experiencing any medical issue or have any medical concern, you should consult with a doctor or other medical professional. Further, due to the inherent limitations of a podcast such as this as well as ongoing scientific developments, we do not guarantee the completeness or accuracy of the information or analysis provided in this podcast, although, of course we always endeavor to provide comprehensive information and analysis. In no event may Unbiased Science or any of the participants in this podcast be held liable to the listener or anyone else for any decision allegedly made or action allegedly taken or not taken allegedly in reliance on the discussion or information in this podcast or for any damages allegedly resulting from such reliance. The information provided herein do not represent the views of our employers.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jess Steyer, and Dr. Sarah Scheinman. And today, we are tackling a topic that is unfortunately

1:05.2

very timely. It is all over the news, everyone's talking about it, measles and, of course, the MMR vaccine. And we have

1:14.5

with us today an expert, Dr. Adam Ratner. I'm going to read his bio in just a second, but he is the

1:21.5

perfect person to bring on the podcast to talk about this topic. Thank you so much, Dr. Ratner,

1:27.1

for joining us.

1:28.3

I pleasure. Delighted to be here. All right. So without any further ado, let me read,

1:33.9

Dr. Adam Ratner is a pediatric infectious disease specialist. He's been on the front lines of both

1:40.1

measles and COVID-19 outbreaks, helping lead responses and care for hospitalized children.

1:46.3

He's also the author of Booster Shots, an absolute must-read, which we will link to on our show

1:53.4

notes, in which he warns of the resurgence of measles, the anti-vaccine movement, and how we can

1:59.9

prepare for the next pandemic.

2:02.8

Before we dive in, I just wanted to read a couple of quotes on the back of the book.

2:09.7

Two of my heroes are quoted here, so Dr. Paul Offutt.

2:14.9

Not only have we largely eliminated measles from the U.S., we've eliminated the

2:19.3

memory of measles. As a result, measles is coming back. Weaving historical events with personal

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