Summer Friday: Reading the Third Indictment
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 1 September 2023
⏱️ 109 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump was indicted on August 1 in Department of Justice special counsel Jack Smith's probe into the former president's 2020 election interference and Jan. 6, 2021. On this Summer Friday, a special encore presentation of selections from the indictment, plus analysis and listener reactions.
First,
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WNYC host Tiffany Hanssen;
Kai Wright, host of WNYC's Notes from America;
Micah Loewinger, correspondent for WNYC's On the Media;
Elie Mystal, justice correspondent for The Nation, host of its new podcast Contempt of Court with Elie Mystal and the author of Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution (The New Press, 2022); and
Jill Wine-Banks, MSNBC legal analyst, former Watergate special prosecutor, co-host of the podcasts #Sistersinlaw and IGenPolitics and the author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight for Truth and Justice Against a Criminal President (Henry Holt and Co., 2020),
take turns reading key passages from the document.
Then,
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Jill Wine-Banks offers analysis of this latest indictment of the former president.
This encore presentation was edited slightly for time and clarity. The original live presentation is available here:
The Third Indictment of Donald Trump: A Reading and Analysis (Aug 4, 2023)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Bryan Lair Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. Today we are re-airing the special |
| 0:17.0 | annotated reading we did last month. After Donald Trump was indicted on federal charges |
| 0:22.4 | of defroding and disenfranchising Americans with his big lie stolen election claims culminating |
| 0:28.2 | in the January 6th Capitol riot. Many listeners told us they really appreciated hearing these |
| 0:33.4 | key sections read aloud and discussed a little bit as we went. And remember the reason we |
| 0:38.6 | did it in announcing the indictment, special counsel Jack Smith made a point to say this. |
| 0:44.6 | The indictment was issued by a grand jury of citizens here in the District of Columbia, |
| 0:48.6 | and it sets forth the crimes charged in detail. I encourage everyone to read it in full. |
| 0:56.3 | I encourage everyone to read it in full. Special counsel Smith also made sure to remind everyone |
| 1:01.8 | of this. I must emphasize that the indictment is only an allegation and that the defendant must |
| 1:08.7 | be presumed innocent until proving guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. |
| 1:15.3 | Special counsel Jack Smith when he announced the indictment. Now we didn't have time in this |
| 1:20.7 | two-hour show for every word, but what we could do is read a lot of it, letting you hear |
| 1:25.6 | many of the details of the evidence that the special counsel wants us to judge for ourselves. |
| 1:30.8 | We will also pause along the way and save some time at the end for analysis with some of our readers. |
| 1:37.1 | And no, I won't subject you to the torture of hearing just me read for nearly two hours. |
| 1:42.1 | We're not that mean around here. We have five guest readers lined up who each agreed to take |
| 1:47.3 | different sections of the indictment to present as we go. But I will start with the opening section |
| 1:52.6 | of the 45-page document. It is simply called the introduction and here we go. Introduction. |
| 2:00.2 | Paragraph one. The defendant, Donald J. Trump, was the 45th president of the United States and |
| 2:06.2 | a candidate for re-election in 2020. The defendant lost the 2020 presidential election. Paragraph two. |
| 2:14.3 | Despite having lost, the defendant was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months, |
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