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The Brian Lehrer Show

Summer Friday: Dr. Anthony Fauci; Sarah McCammon; Anne Lamott; A.I. in Health Care Roundtable

The Brian Lehrer Show

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 August 2024

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Fauci Reflects; Being an 'Ex-vangelical'; Anne Lamott; Roundtable on the Promises and Perils of A.I. in MedicineFor this "Summer Friday" we've put together some of our favorite conversations this year: Anthony Fauci, M.D., longtime director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, now a professor at Georgetown University in the School of Medicine and the McCourt School of Public Policy, and the author of On Call: A Doctor’s Journey in Public Service (Viking, 2024), talks about his life and the public health crises the country faced. Sarah McCammon, national correspondent for NPR and the author of The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church (Macmillan, 2024), shares her story of growing up within, and leaving, evangelican Christianity, and what her reporting shows of others like her and their impact on American politics and culture. Anne Lamott, author of twenty books, including Bird by Bird and her latest, Somehow: Thoughts on Love (Riverhead Books, 2024), talks about turning 70, and why love has been the answer to the many challenges she's faced in her own life. Each year the news division hosts the WNYC Health Convening with support from the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation as an opportunity for healthcare experts and practitioners to inform WNYC's health reporting. This year, Siddhartha Mukherjee, M.D., associate professor of medicine at Columbia University, cancer researcher, co-founder of MANAS.Ai, and author of several books, most recently, The Song of the Cell: An Exploration of Medicine and the New Human (Scribner, 2022), and Shinjini Kundu, M.D., PhD, fellow physician and computer scientist at The Johns Hopkins Hospital, and Paul Friedman, M.D., chair of the Department of Cardiovascular Medicine at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN, discuss how artificial intelligence is currently interacting with healthcare, including AI's role in diagnosing diseases, discovering the building blocks for medication, and cover concerns related to patient privacy and algorithm bias. These interviews were polished up and edited for time, the original versions are available here: Dr. Fauci Looks Back (June 28, 2024) Faith & Politics & Ex-Evangelicals (April 3, 2024) Anne Lamott on Love (May 22, 2024) A Roundtable on A.I. in Health Care (June 18, 2024)

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lera Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone.

0:14.2

For this summer Friday, we've put together some recent conversations,

0:18.1

edited just a bit for clarity and time, including NPR Sarah McCammon

0:22.3

on her journey beyond the evangelical Christianity of her youth. Anne Lamott offers her thoughts

0:28.5

on love, turning 70, and more. Plus, our big roundtable discussion on the promise of AI in

0:34.8

healthcare. But speaking of health care, we start here with Dr. Anthony Fauci.

0:40.0

It's easy to forget that his job title all these years was not COVID Lightning Rod, but rather

0:45.9

director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which he held from 1984 to

0:52.5

2022. Now retired at 83 years old, his book is not just about Trump and the pandemic,

0:58.6

but that and a whole lot more about public health in his life and times.

1:02.7

The book is titled On Call, A Doctors Journey in Public Service.

1:07.3

Dr. Fauci, thanks for coming on with us.

1:09.1

Welcome back to WNYC.

1:10.9

Thank you very much. It's good to be with you.

1:13.1

I see it's not a public health official's journey. It's a doctor's journey. Is that how you identify?

1:19.4

Oh, absolutely. As I point out in the book very clearly, that my primary identity is as a physician,

1:26.6

and I tell the story about how I got to that particular point in life.

1:31.3

And everything else is derivative of that, you know, a scientist, a public health official, and a public servant.

1:38.3

And that's the reason why I talk about that in the context of my being, my primary identity being a physician, which it still is,

1:47.4

actually. Before we get into politics or public health, let's just cover a little of your childhood

1:53.5

because it was here in New York, in Brooklyn. I think some of our listeners might find it

1:57.6

interesting. And it'll probably be the most fun part of the segment.

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