You know, let me just say that Charlie and Jill, we've been ministering together for a very, very long time.

I've seen them go through a lot of stuff. They've seen us go through a lot of stuff.

And I remember one year, it's been over 32 years because we're in our 32nd year of Carrey's Bible College.

And it was the year before we started the Bible college. And Jamie and I had a real,

really, really bad situation, negative situation. And I was going to cancel a trip to the UK

because I just couldn't leave Jamie here to deal with stuff on her own. And basically, Jamie said, no, you will leave. You will do

what God told you to do. And I can handle it. And I felt terrible about leaving her. And so I got

out on this rock that was at our property in Florison, and it was taller than this building,

the roof. And I chiseled out a seat in it. Now, Ashley and Carly

owned that place, and have you ever been out on that rock? They're afraid to go out on there,

because you've got to jump across a gap about like that, and so they've been afraid to go out there.

But anyway, I went out there, anyway I went out there and I was sitting

there and thinking God what are we going to do and did you know that that song that they sang

came back to my remembrance and I must have sang that thing I don't even know how many times

and just worship the Lord and through that you know it's scripture and you build yourself up in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs.

And so that encouraged me to go ahead and go to England.

And that is the exact time that God spoke to me about starting the school.

And I guess maybe it could have happened some other way,

but that is the way that it happened.

And God used that song. And the scripture says you build yourself up and you minister to

yourself in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs. And so much of Christian music today is

entertainment. You might like the melody or something, but the words will kill you. And these are good words.

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