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So when we're growing up in the worldview that we are, most of us are raised in,

this separation worldview is the idea that there's not enough for everybody.

So we have to really pursue certainty, which leads to a pursuit of perfectionism.

You can't fail, which leads to just self-focus.

Helping you design your roadmap to wholeness from the inside out.

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Hey, friends, thanks so much for joining me this week for episode 374. It's week four formed here on

Wynn today and I'm really excited because one of our favorite people is back on the podcast,

Jamie Winship. This week, Jamie talks to us about why separation creates suffering, the necessary practice of self-empting,

according to Jesus' teaching in Matthew 5, how to develop a right view of God and a brilliant

concept called closed-handed anxiety. Until this conversation, I had never even heard the term,

but Jamie takes us into the deep end of the pool to

explain what it is and how it plays out in life. As usual, it's a fascinating conversation.

So prepare for some note-taking. And of course, if you missed the first three weeks of form,

go back and catch those episodes on your podcast feed or on YouTube. So that's where we're

headed today in our conversation

with Jamie. But first, I want to tell you about a great free resource called On the Rise. It's one of

today's most read newsletters about faith, culture, and other curious content. It's written by my friend

Kerry Newhoff and delivered directly to your inbox every Friday. So if you'd like to

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