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The Owen Jones Podcast

Suella Braverman's New Low

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2023

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Being horrified by Suella Braverman might seem like a waste of emotional energy - but her latest public utterances are disturbing, and this is why.

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0:00.0

Hold on a minute, bear with me, just trying to find my happy place, we don't have to think

0:07.8

about the conservatives, the general right-wing hellscape, or in particular, Suela Braven.

0:15.4

Hey, that'll be for now.

0:18.9

Right, so Suela Braven, that fountain of humanity, generosity, warmth and love, what's she

0:24.0

on this time? No, that's something imbued with a milk of human kindness. Honestly, I don't

0:31.2

think I should actually be shocked or disgusted or horrified with these people. I should maybe

0:38.1

lose my capacity for that, or maybe I shouldn't, because that's when it becomes normalized.

0:43.2

Now, Suela Braven did a speech in the House of Commons about the government's official

0:48.5

counter-extremism programme, which is called Prevent, which by the way has all sorts of

0:52.6

problems to say the least, which I won't go into now, that's probably for another video.

0:56.9

But she was referring to a review undertaken by this guy called Sir William Shorecross.

1:03.8

This is a guy, just so aware, who once said, Europe and Islam is one of the greatest most

1:10.3

terrifying problems of our future. I think all European countries have vastly, very quickly

1:14.9

growing, Islamic populations. Yeah, he sounds like a really appropriate guy to adjudicate

1:20.8

on what constitutes extremism, and not. Anyway, he had a review at the Home Offices on

1:28.1

the review, Home Offices, so I take on right-wing politics of an extreme flavour. Let's

1:32.9

pull it that way. Let's hear what Suela Bravenman had to say.

1:36.4

Riku has failed to draw clear distinctions between mainstream conservative commentary and

1:42.2

the extreme right. People, like my right-wing boyfriend, the member for North East Somerset

1:48.5

and Douglas Murray, express mainstream, insightful and perfectly decent political views. People

1:55.6

may disagree with them, but in no way are they extremists. Prevent must not risk any perception

2:03.1

of disparaging them as such again. From now on, all Riku products which report on extremist

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