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Sudan's Brutal Civil War, 2 Years In

KQED's Forum

KQED

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 656 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

It’s been two years this month since fighting broke out between the Sudanese military and the paramilitary group Rapid Support Forces, leading to a devastating civil war that’s so far killed more than 150,000 people and displaced 13 million while causing the world’s worst famine in decades. The New York Times was the first Western outlet to report from the center of the Sudanese capital since the war erupted. We talk to chief Africa correspondent Declan Walsh about where the war stands and the humanitarian impact. Guests: Declan Walsh, chief Africa correspondent, The New York Times - based in Nairobi, Kenya Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coming up on Forum, new developments in the brutal civil war in Sudan may mark a turning point in what's been called the world's worst humanitarian crisis, with many tens of thousands dead,

1:28.3

and 13 million displaced amid famine.

1:31.3

This hour we get an update from Declan Walsh of the New York Times, which last month became the first American outlet to report from the capital city of Khartoum,

1:39.3

after the Sudanese military managed to drive out its rival the rapid support forces.

1:44.8

We'll look at what these developments mean for two years of devastating conflict

1:48.6

and what role the U.S. might play as aid cuts exacerbate the crisis.

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Join us.

1:59.8

Welcome to Forum. I'm Mina Kim. Shortly before leaving office in January, the Biden administration called actions in Sudan genocide. The Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, described the rapid support forces, a paramilitary group fighting the Sudan's military is committing systematic, ethnically targeted

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murder and mass rape. Both the RSF and the Sudanese armed forces have been accused of atrocities

2:25.3

in a conflict that has taken 150,000 lives, according to a U.S. envoy, including from war-related

2:32.8

famine and disease.

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But recent developments are marking a shift in the course of the Civil War that broke out two years ago, April 15th.

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Joining me to talk about them is Declan Walsh, New York Times Chief Africa correspondent,

2:47.4

who last month was able to get in and report from the center of Sudan's capital Khartoum

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