“Success” Looks Different for Every Family with Glennon Doyle and Abby Wambach

Michelle Obama: The Light Podcast

Higher Ground

Self-improvement, Education, Society & Culture, Relationships

4.4 • 9.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Author Glennon Doyle and superstar soccer legend Abby Wambach sit down to give advice about what an IMO listener should prioritize while figuring out where to move her young family. Glennon shares why she moved her family seven times, and, as the “bonus parent,” Abby discusses what she thinks is most important to their kids’ and family’s happiness (hint: It’s not unlimited cake-pops, though she’s tried). Craig and Michelle discuss their own stories of uprooting families for careers—including a very strange move to a big house in Washington, DC.

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0:00.0	Would we be changing our answer if it wasn't New York?
0:05.5	Well, I'm biased.
0:07.9	I think New York is just a hard place to live.
0:11.3	I don't, you know, no offense to New Yorkers, but man, you know, I mean, I just, when I'm in New York and I see people with strollers and little kids,
0:21.2	I just think it's dirty down there.
0:23.8	Pick them up.
0:24.4	Pick them up away from the dirt.
0:32.4	This episode is brought to you by Rivian and Pinesall.
0:37.9	I am so excited to be here with you.
0:41.9	It's very excited.
0:45.3	It's good to see you.
0:46.7	It's good to be seen.
0:47.9	Yeah, yeah, what's been going on with you?
0:50.2	Well, got a high schooler again.
0:53.5	Oh, yeah, yeah, round two, round two.
0:56.8	Austin's going into high school.
0:58.7	Is he going to be playing basketball?
1:01.3	He's properly worried about making junior varsity, which is good.
1:08.1	Okay.
1:08.8	Because most kids who are freshmen think they should be playing in the NBA.
1:12.9	And he doesn't feel that way, so I'm happy about that.
1:16.8	Okay.
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