There's a better way to do this.

Let me show you a better way.

You don't have to be another face in the crowd.

Well, high folks, this is Jack Speerco with another edition of the Survival Podcast.

There's always one man's view of the changing world but changing times.

And the things we can all do to live a better life, if times get tough, or even if they don't today is Wednesday.

December the 14th, 2022.

This is episode 3217 of the Survival Podcast.

It is Wednesday.

As per usual, Wednesday is an interview day.

We have a special guest today.

Clara Pito.

Clara is born and hungry and lives in Australia deep into permaculture.

And why wouldn't she be now living in Australia being the birthplace of permaculture to a great degree?

Kind of the mothership of permaculture, I guess it is the Australian.

And really the Australian suburban permaculture movement is the probably biggest individual single movement of permaculture.

I know people like to think that we Americans are like the biggest of everything.

But the reality is if you wanted to go find a place where the most permaculture happens in a group type of thing.

Like if you went out and talked to a thousand people and find the most people that are doing permaculture and even know what permaculture is,

it is probably like the suburbs and urban areas and kind of urban rural fringe throughout Australia.

And again, that makes perfect sense with the Permaculture Research Institute being set up there,

Bill Mollison, having lived most of his life, especially after starting permaculture there, et cetera, Jeff Lawton being based out of there.

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