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Subtle Signs of Control w/Sarah Patch, LPCC

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IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Patch is a clinical counselor in Columbus, Ohio who has devoted the past few years of her career to educating herself and others on authoritarian abuse and cult involvement. Sarah cares deeply about raising awareness of the subtle and not-so-subtle signs of controlling behavior so that people can live more authentic and joyful lives. Sarah was both a participant and victim of authoritarian control while in a Christian cult where she spent most of her life. She hopes that by sharing her story, she can help individuals break down their walls of cognitive dissonance and find freedom. Throughout this revealing conversation, Sarah shares insights from her experience under the control of Xenos, now known as Dwell Church. She goes on to discuss with Rachel her own work as a counselor, explaining how her time in a high-control religious group informed the work she does today. Together the two colleagues explain the mechanisms of control that are commonly used in cultic organizations. Before You Go: Rachel addresses the concept of P.I.M.O. (Physically In, Mentally Out) explaining the complex stages of recovering from cultic abuse, and how they can manifest in the minds of survivors. You can find more info about Sarah's work at https://www.sarahpatchcounseling.com/ All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.5

Hi, everyone. Today on the show, we have Sarah Patch. She is a clinical counselor in Columbus, Ohio,

0:20.5

who has devoted the past few years of her

0:23.1

career to educating herself and others on authoritarian abuse and cult involvement. Sarah cares

0:29.8

deeply about raising awareness of the subtle and not-so-settled signs of controlling behavior

0:34.7

so that people can live more authentic and joyful lives.

0:38.9

Sarah was both a participant and victim of authoritarian control while in a Christian cult

0:44.3

where she spent most of her life. She hopes that by sharing her story, she can help individuals

0:49.8

break down their walls of cognitive dissonance and find freedom.

1:00.7

You can find more info about Sarah's work at sarahpatch counseling.com.

1:05.0

Here is Sarah now. Thank you. It is so nice to meet someone new today to have Sarah Patch on the show with us

1:21.1

who has her own story, although it dovetails with another guest that we had on previously, just to a certain

1:31.1

degree. Everyone's story is unique. And it's also really nice to meet someone else in the field,

1:37.4

someone else who is a counselor who can talk about things from that perspective as well.

1:44.8

And there are a bunch of things that I want to make sure that we cover.

1:47.9

And I took a lot of notes from just reading your bio.

1:51.1

So welcome to the show.

1:52.8

Spend a few moments just introducing yourself.

1:55.3

Yes.

1:55.9

Thank you for having me.

1:57.4

I was thinking about telling my story and sharing more of my thoughts about this topic

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