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This Jungian Life Podcast

[SUBSCRIBER BONUS] How Do the Negative Mother and Negative Animus Collude?

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In this free edition of Jung Love, our subscriber bonus content, a Patron asks:


"What are the dynamics in a woman's psyche of the collusion between the negative mother and the negative animus?"


⁠Support This Jungian Life on Patreon⁠ and ask Lisa, Deb, and Joseph your questions for a chance to have them answered on Jung Love.

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0:00.0

Welcome, once again to Jung Love. We're with you in mind. We take some time to answer questions, take a look at dreams, or some of the other content that you'd like us to consider as ever.

0:23.9

Your support is much appreciated.

0:26.7

This week here is a question, and the question is,

0:31.2

what are the dynamics in a woman's psyche of the collusion between the negative mother and the negative animus.

0:40.4

And for context, she says, I've had two similar dreams recently.

0:46.2

In the first, I'm at work, and my mother's in the office and is irritated and upset.

0:51.9

A man across the hall is trying to distract me from my work that I haven't

0:56.1

been able to do for a long time. In the second dream, my mother has her back turned to me,

1:02.4

never acknowledging me and holding up dinner while my brother is late off doing his own thing.

1:08.9

I think I read in one of Marion Woodman's books about how the

1:12.6

negative mother and negative animus can collude in a woman's psyche. Well, I think one of the

1:20.5

ideas that comes up naturally for me is how in fairy tales particularly,

1:30.8

there can be a problematic female figure,

1:35.0

an evil queen, a cursing stepmother.

1:37.9

And sometimes in the fairy tales,

1:40.3

that there are male figures,

1:45.5

huntsmen, soldiers, viziers, for instance, that are in service to the queen

1:49.0

and in a sense facilitating this problematic conflict in the psyche.

1:58.6

That's one environment where I think that dynamic is captured as a motif.

2:05.9

So that sparks in me the thought of, like in Snow White, the wicked queen hires the huntsman,

2:15.6

who is supposed to kill Snow White and bring back her heart.

2:20.7

In Hansel and Gretel, the father, he's not the agent of sending the children out into the woods,

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