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Hello and welcome to coffeehouse shots

the Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Katie Paul's and I'm joined by Isabel Hardman and Michael Simmons who is the data editor

of the Spectator and also a regular when we have done Coffey house Scots. Now Isabelle you've been

following Nicholas Sturgeon's evidence this morning obviously very highly

anticipated largely because we haven't been able to get that much from her messages in advance.

So I suppose what was I think the pressure on her going into this and how the first part of it gone?

Yeah, so the first section of this morning's evidence because they

had a break halfway through the first section was about those what's up

messages or lack of and whether WhatsApp was part of her decision-making

process when in government.

Now according to Nicholas Sturgeon it really wasn't and that her, the bulk of her communications with senior colleagues like

John Swinney and so on and chief medical officers and so on were largely her what's happening people to say can I have a word and then a conversation

will follow that was always recorded in the proper way.

Sturgeon actually got quite emotional in some of her answers and I think that's

quite interesting because a lot of this is about how controlling she was I

would say that she's one of the politicians

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